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Sammy bin Snoozin
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

I think this is a king palm (not 100% sure). Here are some photos I just took today to show a possible problem. Up until today I thought this was normal, but when I push on the tree, it sway very easily and I can see the trunk move at the ground. Nothing appears wet or eaten by insects - everything I can see and touch is hard like a normal tree.

Anyway, anyone who can share some info about this tree - is this normal or not, etc - would be very much appreciated.

If you send me an email, please post to this newsgroup also as I do not check this account daily.

http://www.geocities.com/sammybinsnoozin/palm.html

Thanks in advance!

Sam
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JoeSpareBedroom
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

"Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:A8oXi.16179$Rg1.11432@trnddc05...
I think this is a king palm (not 100% sure). Here are some photos I just
took today to show a possible problem. Up until today I thought this was
normal, but when I push on the tree, it sway very easily and I can see the
trunk move at the ground. Nothing appears wet or eaten by insects -
everything I can see and touch is hard like a normal tree.

Anyway, anyone who can share some info about this tree - is this normal or
not, etc - would be very much appreciated.

If you send me an email, please post to this newsgroup also as I do not
check this account daily.

http://www.geocities.com/sammybinsnoozin/palm.html

Thanks in advance!

Sam
++++++++++++++++++

Good pictures! Was the tree always smaller in diameter at the bottom that
way? That does NOT look good. And, based on the symptoms, I don't know if
I'd park a car near it in windy weather.

You might want to call your local cooperative extension office ASAP, and
send or bring them these pictures.
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Scott Hildenbrand
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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"Steveo" <moparholic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's been two days since you posted your message, so you've had time to
call your cooperative extension office and ask them about the problem.
And, today's Tuesday, so we know the office was probably open yesterday
and today.

When you called them, what did they say about this tree?

He can't ask advice here too, 'your cooperative extension' is the end all
right?

No, silly. But, his description suggests that the tree is losing its grip on
the ground beneath. I don't know about you, but that sounds analogous to a
55 year old human having chest pains and shortness of breath.



Not to mention the fact that it's so close to the street and walkway..

If a tree falls on someone in the street, do they make a sound? ;)

Yup, and then they sue you.. It's best to let someone "LOOK" at the
thing and make a choice. I'd say the cooperative extension department is
one of the better choices to make as to having someone actually look at
the thing.
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JimR
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

"JimR" <jimr@invalid.net> wrote in message
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"Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:A8oXi.16179$Rg1.11432@trnddc05...
I think this is a king palm (not 100% sure). Here are some photos I just
took today to show a possible problem. Up until today I thought this was
normal, but when I push on the tree, it sway very easily and I can see the
trunk move at the ground. Nothing appears wet or eaten by insects -
everything I can see and touch is hard like a normal tree.

Anyway, anyone who can share some info about this tree - is this normal or
not, etc - would be very much appreciated.

Going to work this morning I noticed a palm enroute that is very similar to

the one in your picture. In this one, the fissures go from the ground to
about 5-6 feet height. I still think this may be the early stages of
ganoderma butt rot.

Info is available at http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/PP100

Included in their summary:

-- Ganoderma butt rot is caused by the fungus Ganoderma zonatum. This fungus
degrades or rots the lower 4-5 feet of the trunk.

-- There are currently no cultural or chemical controls for preventing the
disease or for curing the disease once the palm is infected.

-- A palm cannot be diagnosed with Ganoderma butt rot until the basidiocarp
(conk) forms on the trunk, or the internal rotting of the trunk is observed
after the palm is cut down.

-- Because the fungus survives in the soil, planting another palm back in
that same location is not recommended.
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Sammy bin Snoozin
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

"Buderschnookie" <noway@nada.net> wrote in message
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"Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in
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I printed out these photos and took to the local nursery. They
gave
their stock answer.... they had no idea what it was but "you
should
try this fertilizer..."



Well- you can tell by the frizzled fronds that the tree is
malnourished- is
it regularly fed at all? Minerals too?
And add the base of the trunk to the equation and it spells trouble
IMO.



--
Toni
Hills of Kentucky
USDA Zone 6b
http://www.cearbhaill.com




Thanks, it gets the same fertilizer as the rest of the yard/trees -
10-10-10 spring and fall -- or whatever is on the bag. All the other
trees in the yard - fruit, pines - are doing great. But as you can
tell I know nothing about palm trees. Interestingly I was talking to
the next door neighbor about this one. He told me it has looked that
way 15 years ago before I was there.

Will post again when I find out something for the benefit of other
folks.

PS - I'm surprised that there is not a website somewhere with photos
of palm conditions. This must be a common question for the rest of
the suckers out there who have these *useless* non-native trees.

Sam
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Sammy bin Snoozin
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

PS -- I don't like palm trees as they are non-native to Calif, produce
no shade or fruit and attract lovely rats in the top. I think I have
solved the problem....

http://www.buytikitorches.com/images/atp-fb4_1.jpg


"Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in message
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"Buderschnookie" <noway@nada.net> wrote in message
news:85d9c$47384341$4b5ad3cf$29940@ALLTEL.NET...

"Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in
message
news:w2UZi.296$RR1.203@trnddc02...

I printed out these photos and took to the local nursery. They
gave
their stock answer.... they had no idea what it was but "you
should
try this fertilizer..."



Well- you can tell by the frizzled fronds that the tree is
malnourished- is
it regularly fed at all? Minerals too?
And add the base of the trunk to the equation and it spells
trouble
IMO.



--
Toni
Hills of Kentucky
USDA Zone 6b
http://www.cearbhaill.com




Thanks, it gets the same fertilizer as the rest of the yard/trees -
10-10-10 spring and fall -- or whatever is on the bag. All the
other
trees in the yard - fruit, pines - are doing great. But as you can
tell I know nothing about palm trees. Interestingly I was talking
to
the next door neighbor about this one. He told me it has looked
that
way 15 years ago before I was there.

Will post again when I find out something for the benefit of other
folks.

PS - I'm surprised that there is not a website somewhere with photos
of palm conditions. This must be a common question for the rest of
the suckers out there who have these *useless* non-native trees.

Sam







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Scott Hildenbrand
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Grooves in trunk of palm tree Reply with quote

Sammy bin Snoozin wrote:
Quote:
PS -- I don't like palm trees as they are non-native to Calif, produce
no shade or fruit and attract lovely rats in the top. I think I have
solved the problem....

http://www.buytikitorches.com/images/atp-fb4_1.jpg


S


I prefer the totem pole look myself..

Now, chop it down, grab a chain saw and have fun.. wink
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