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dave n cally
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: New to allotments |
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hi ive just got an allotment for me and my son who is 9yrs old ive no
idea on gardening or growing stuff . the allotment hasnt been used for
a couple of years and was covered in brambles and weeds ive removed all
of them to ground level and they are now comming back up .iam thinking
of using round up on them now and leaving for a week or so then
spreading some manure over the site then covering it over with plastic
sheeting . i can then get somebody to plough then rotivate it for a
small charge is this a good idea as i want to get it looking workable
a.s.a.p. so my son dosent loose interest [he has a.d.h.d.] i think it
could be great for him giving him a hobby and somwhere to burn off
steam PLSE HELP!!!!!!!
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Billy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: Re: New to allotments |
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In article <dave.n.cally.19d4c19@gardenbanter.co.uk>,
dave n cally <dave.n.cally.19d4c19@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | hi ive just got an allotment for me and my son who is 9yrs old ive no
idea on gardening or growing stuff . the allotment hasnt been used for
a couple of years and was covered in brambles and weeds ive removed all
of them to ground level and they are now comming back up .iam thinking
of using round up on them now and leaving for a week or so then
spreading some manure over the site then covering it over with plastic
sheeting . i can then get somebody to plough then rotivate it for a
small charge is this a good idea as i want to get it looking workable
a.s.a.p. so my son dosent loose interest [he has a.d.h.d.] i think it
could be great for him giving him a hobby and somwhere to burn off
steam PLSE HELP!!!!!!!
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Be advised that Roundup is highly controversial, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup. Any toxic effects would most
likely manifest themselves in your son, who is still in his maturation
process.
I would recommend that you use the no dig, lasagna technique and cover
the allotment with cardboard or several layers of newspaper, cover with
compost (if possible), sprinkle on some bone meal, spread a layer of
manure (to taste), and cover with mulch.
Get a copy of "Teaming with Microbes" (check library), and figure out
what you want to plant in the spring.
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Billy
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
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FarmI
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Re: New to allotments |
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"dave n cally" <dave.n.cally.19d4c19@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
| Quote: | hi ive just got an allotment for me and my son who is 9yrs old ive no
idea on gardening or growing stuff . the allotment hasnt been used for
a couple of years and was covered in brambles and weeds ive removed all
of them to ground level and they are now comming back up .iam thinking
of using round up on them now and leaving for a week or so then
spreading some manure over the site then covering it over with plastic
sheeting . i can then get somebody to plough then rotivate it for a
small charge is this a good idea as i want to get it looking workable
a.s.a.p. so my son dosent loose interest [he has a.d.h.d.] i think it
could be great for him giving him a hobby and somwhere to burn off
steam PLSE HELP!!!!!!!
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You are learning the first lesson of gardening - how to cope with weeds.
I wouldn't advice using Roundup in a food garden or if you have a child
whose condition may be sensitive to modern day chemicals, just plug away at
the soil preparation and get that right from the start. As (and if) you
continue your gardening life, you will find that the soil is the MOST
important part of gardening and growing stuff comes secondary over time. By
that I mean that you will learn that if your soil is right, then you will
never have any trouble growing things (if you don't try to grow things that
are either out of season or not suited to your climate) |
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dave n cally
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: Re: New to allotments |
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thanx 2 all for your replies upto date . inow have a good idea on what
to do .im going to BAN THE ROUND UP IDEA ! That seems to make very good
sense. im going to use my plastic sheet to cover manure that im going to
spread [ive allready got the sheet 100square metres] then start on a
little bit at a time im only going to aim at getting less than half
done at the moment it is 21 metres long by 6 metres wide in total so if
i only aim at doing a bit ive got plenty to be going on with!!!!!!!!!!
expect a lot more questions in the near future. WATCH THIS SPACE
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dave n cally |
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sueb
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: Re: New to allotments |
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On Nov 1, 12:19 pm, dave n cally <dave.n.cally.
19fe...@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | thanx 2 all for your replies upto date . inow have a good idea on what
to do .im going to BAN THE ROUND UP IDEA ! That seems to make very good
sense. im going to use my plastic sheet to cover manure that im going to
spread [ive allready got the sheet 100square metres] then start on a
little bit at a time im only going to aim at getting less than half
done at the moment it is 21 metres long by 6 metres wide in total so if
i only aim at doing a bit ive got plenty to be going on with!!!!!!!!!!
expect a lot more questions in the near future. WATCH THIS SPACE
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dave n cally
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Covering the whole thing up is not going to be very interesting to a
9year old boy. Leave a little uncovered and you can use it for
"experiments" in the mean time. Dump a bunch of water on it so that
you will be able to turn it over and see if there are any worms or
bugs. Get a pH testing kit and try it. Try planting some of the
things that are almost guaranteed to come up: radishes and garlic are
pretty sure bets. Get a live Christmas tree this year and plant it in
the allotment (if that's allowed).
Good luck,
Susan B. |
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doofy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: Re: New to allotments |
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dave n cally wrote:
| Quote: | thanx 2 all for your replies upto date . inow have a good idea on what
to do .im going to BAN THE ROUND UP IDEA ! That seems to make very good
sense. im going to use my plastic sheet to cover manure that im going to
spread [ive allready got the sheet 100square metres] then start on a
little bit at a time im only going to aim at getting less than half
done at the moment it is 21 metres long by 6 metres wide in total so if
i only aim at doing a bit ive got plenty to be going on with!!!!!!!!!!
expect a lot more questions in the near future. WATCH THIS SPACE
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I was sort of terse in my suggestion, and I am inexperienced, but when I
said raised beds, I had in mind you just putting in a small raised bed
to get started, and hopefully the soil underneath it would start getting
"worked on". You could even put the manure in the bottom of a bed, and
put some planting medium on top of that.
You can still work on the rest of it too, in the way you describe above. |
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