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Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking?

 
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charlieb
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking? Reply with quote
No, this isn’t about “What is the boundary between Art and Craft?”.
It's more about
Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking.

I’m playing with multi-axis turning, doing both circular cross section
as well as intersecting arcs stuff - specifically simple stylized
standing human forms. You’ve probably seen them - the legs and hips
turned on one axis, the waste, torso, neck and head turned on another.
When viewed in profile the results are recognizable as a standing human
form. Viewed from the front or rear things get less recognizable -
humans not being symetrical about just one or two axis (axisese, or is
it axi?).

So I added an additional axis, allowing the stomach and the front of the
chest to be flattened a bit. Then I added two more axis, their centers
being 90s to the three. Ib line, axis already turned. The latter let me
flatten the sides of the thighs, hips and derriere to get more of a
trapezoidal cross section rather than a circular or oval cross section.
Another axis and just the face side of the head was changed, making it
less rounded.

That’s when it occured to me - “Hey, this isn’t turning anymore - it’s
carving.”. Then I thought of the works of Bin Pho, Malcom Tibbet,
Escoulen, Sfirri, Hunter - carvers/sculptors - some also painters - the
lathe and turning being only one of many tools and techniques used to
create their pieces - the wood often merely one of the mediums in their
works.

And that raised the question - when does a piece go from a turning to a
piece of sculpture? If you aren’t cutting all the way around the piece,
are you still “turning” - or are you carving?

Of all the forms of woodworking, “Turning” seems to have the least
defined boundaries. Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking.

charlie b

and here's the evolution of my Nude Dudes idea - so far.
http://web.hypersurf.com/~charlie2/Turning/MultiCenter/HumanForms/MultiAxisHumanForm1.html
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tdup2
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking? Reply with quote
I would say you are in the "Fuzzy Edges" when you are no longer turning the
complete piece. Using a router, or sculpturing holes in certain areas and
things like that would fall into sculpturing.

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No, this isn’t about “What is the boundary between Art and Craft?”.
It's more about
Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking.

I’m playing with multi-axis turning, doing both circular cross section
as well as intersecting arcs stuff - specifically simple stylized
standing human forms. You’ve probably seen them - the legs and hips
turned on one axis, the waste, torso, neck and head turned on another.
When viewed in profile the results are recognizable as a standing human
form. Viewed from the front or rear things get less recognizable -
humans not being symetrical about just one or two axis (axisese, or is
it axi?).

So I added an additional axis, allowing the stomach and the front of the
chest to be flattened a bit. Then I added two more axis, their centers
being 90s to the three. Ib line, axis already turned. The latter let me
flatten the sides of the thighs, hips and derriere to get more of a
trapezoidal cross section rather than a circular or oval cross section.
Another axis and just the face side of the head was changed, making it
less rounded.

That’s when it occured to me - “Hey, this isn’t turning anymore - it’s
carving.”. Then I thought of the works of Bin Pho, Malcom Tibbet,
Escoulen, Sfirri, Hunter - carvers/sculptors - some also painters - the
lathe and turning being only one of many tools and techniques used to
create their pieces - the wood often merely one of the mediums in their
works.

And that raised the question - when does a piece go from a turning to a
piece of sculpture? If you aren’t cutting all the way around the piece,
are you still “turning” - or are you carving?

Of all the forms of woodworking, “Turning” seems to have the least
defined boundaries. Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking.

charlie b

and here's the evolution of my Nude Dudes idea - so far.
http://web.hypersurf.com/~charlie2/Turning/MultiCenter/HumanForms/MultiAxisHumanForm1.html
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charlieb
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking? Reply with quote
tdup2 wrote:
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I would say you are in the "Fuzzy Edges" when you are no longer turning the
complete piece. Using a router, or sculpturing holes in certain areas and
things like that would fall into sculpturing.

But, given enough axis options, you can take off a little or a lot of
wood at very specific places, just as you would doing "normal"
carving. Check out some of Mark Sfirri's pieces in the picture
of the shelves full of "stuff" on this page.
http://www.lynneyamaguchi.com/wordpress/2007/07/13/mark-sfirri%E2%80%99s-july-8/

Hell, take just about any piece on that page - all technically
"turned" - but they sure look like sculpture to me.

With a special Escoulen ball chuck you have an almost infinite
number of "centers" you can use to remove wood almost
anywhere you want to. Granted, it may take a lot of
head scratching and maybe a brain cramp to do it -
but once you go beyond single axis turning there are
plenty of options available

If you do integral "feet" on a bowl, and that requires some
work with some wood rasps and/or a grinder, is it still
a turning?

What about charring then wire brushing or sand blasting
the surface, or some of the surface, of the turned piece?

Hunter turns a piece, then bandsaws it up and places the
pieces together in a different way. Sculpture or turning.

Malcom Tibbet(t) turns two identical bowls, cuts each
into equal parts, flips parts and stick things back together
again to create mobius strip type pieces. Turning or
sculpture?

charlie b
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