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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Car CD player, DVD player vs computer CD reader Reply with quote

My computer CD/DVD player never skips/gets stuck playing a movie/CD,
while a dedicated DVD player routinely gets stuck and often goes into
an infinite loop of track search. Same with the car CD player - it
often can't start playing a certain CD or skips on the same place in a
CD (so it's not bump-induced). The unability to start playing a CD in
the car is "cured" by reinserting the CD over and over again, and
eventually the car CD player starts. But if it starts skipping, the
only "cure" is to go to the next track, it can never get out of a
skip.

Why is that? Do computer CD/DVD readers use more powerful/better
focused laser diodes than car CD players/DVD players? Can I buy a car
CD player which would be just as reliable as a computer CD reader?
What spec should I look for? I pretty much gave up on the DVD player,
I just play movies on a laptop.
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Arny Krueger
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Car CD player, DVD player vs computer CD reader Reply with quote

<runcyclexcski@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1186985020.233517.236140@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com

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My computer CD/DVD player never skips/gets stuck playing
a movie/CD,

It is in good shape, or has the good fortune to play mostly discs in good
shape.

Quote:
while a dedicated DVD player routinely gets
stuck and often goes into an infinite loop of track
search.

It is in bad shape, or has the bad fortune to play mostly discs in bad
shape.

Quote:
Same with the car CD player - it often can't
start playing a certain CD or skips on the same place in
a CD (so it's not bump-induced).

It is in bad shape, or has the bad fortune to play mostly discs in bad
shape.

Quote:
The unability to start
playing a CD in the car is "cured" by reinserting the CD
over and over again, and eventually the car CD player
starts. But if it starts skipping, the only "cure" is to
go to the next track, it can never get out of a skip.

Why is that?

Luck of the draw.

Quote:
Do computer CD/DVD readers use more
powerful/better focused laser diodes than car CD
players/DVD players?

I've seen certain of them do everything you're complaining about with the
other players.

Quote:
Can I buy a car CD player which
would be just as reliable as a computer CD reader?

IME, most of them are.

Quote:
What spec should I look for?

One that works well.

Quote:
I pretty much gave up on the DVD player, I just play movies on a laptop.

Try cutting loose some cash - good DVD players aren't all that expensive.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Car CD player, DVD player vs computer CD reader Reply with quote

I've had ~10 computers and none of them has ever skipped or was unable
to recongize a CD with normal wear and tear.
I've had ~10 car CD players and home VD players and they consistenly
recognized less CDs with normal war and tear. So, given this
information, I can't buy the bad shape/good shape argument. I ripped
all of my CDs and transfered the music onto an iPod. But I still have
to play a CD the car occasionally
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Car CD player, DVD player vs computer CD reader Reply with quote

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The simple reason that a computer drive can sometimes read disks that other
drives can't, is that because a computer drive can read faster than real
time, it can re-read tracks whilst the computer buffers the output, and you
may not be aware there is a disk problem.
Most home and car players cannot do this, and the result can be anything
from clicks, stuttering to complete silence.
I've never had a single problem in over 3 years with my car CD/MP3-disk
player though

MrT.

Does the buffering occur in the RAM. Dumb question: do they make car
CD players with a capacity of computer buffer?
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Richard Crowley
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: Car CD player, DVD player vs computer CD reader Reply with quote

<runcyclexcski@yahoo.com> wrote ...
Quote:

The simple reason that a computer drive can sometimes read disks that
other
drives can't, is that because a computer drive can read faster than real
time, it can re-read tracks whilst the computer buffers the output, and
you
may not be aware there is a disk problem.
Most home and car players cannot do this, and the result can be anything
from clicks, stuttering to complete silence.
I've never had a single problem in over 3 years with my car CD/MP3-disk
player though

MrT.

Does the buffering occur in the RAM. Dumb question: do they make car
CD players with a capacity of computer buffer?

Unlikely. Computer buffers are essentially infinite (in terms of an 800MB
audio CD)
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Ron Capik
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Car CD player, DVD player vs computer CD reader Reply with quote

runcyclexcski@yahoo.com wrote:

Quote:
My computer CD/DVD player never skips/gets stuck playing a movie/CD,
while a dedicated DVD player routinely gets stuck and often goes into
an infinite loop of track search. Same with the car CD player - it
often can't start playing a certain CD or skips on the same place in a
CD (so it's not bump-induced). The unability to start playing a CD in
the car is "cured" by reinserting the CD over and over again, and
eventually the car CD player starts. But if it starts skipping, the
only "cure" is to go to the next track, it can never get out of a
skip.

Why is that? Do computer CD/DVD readers use more powerful/better
focused laser diodes than car CD players/DVD players? Can I buy a car
CD player which would be just as reliable as a computer CD reader?
What spec should I look for? I pretty much gave up on the DVD player,
I just play movies on a laptop.

Have you ever used your computer CD/DVD player in your car?
I don't believe you have enough information to draw that conclusion.

Later...

Ron Capik
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