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flimbin
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: fruit trees Reply with quote

Just received an apple tree which I want to train as a cordon. However,
it is about 5 ft long and there are lots of branches up the length of
the tree. Do I just cut all these back to leave just the central stem?

I also received a peach tree which I want to train as a fan. This is
also about 5 feet long with side branches all the way up as well . The
lowest 2 branches are on opposite sides at about the right height, but
thy are weak looking. Should I still prune just above these 2
branches?

Incidentally, I also got a cherry tree, but I dont have any worries
with this.




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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: fruit trees Reply with quote

"flimbin" <flimbin.2iijjz@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:flimbin.2iijjz@gardenbanter.co.uk...
Quote:

Just received an apple tree which I want to train as a cordon. However,
it is about 5 ft long and there are lots of branches up the length of
the tree. Do I just cut all these back to leave just the central stem?

I also received a peach tree which I want to train as a fan. This is
also about 5 feet long with side branches all the way up as well . The
lowest 2 branches are on opposite sides at about the right height, but
thy are weak looking. Should I still prune just above these 2
branches?

Incidentally, I also got a cherry tree, but I dont have any worries
with this.




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The biggest mistake people make in wanting to train a tree is thinking that
they have to start immediately. What you need to start first is a healthy
root system and good growth. So the training can wait especially on the
apple. Peaches are much faster growing. Cut out some of the branches on the
peach that are obviously out of your 2-D plan and wait until new growth is
underway. Don't depend on any existing side growth for your ultimate
framework. Leave plenty of leaves since they are the growth producing
factory but snip out the top few inches of your center growth. This will
induce lots of side bud development for about a foot or so on down the stem.
Select from these to be your framework but you don't need to prune the
others out until next winter when you can really begin to start shaping.
Remember you want lots of leaves. If you want to start your fan lower, then
snip the center growth a little lower than I mentionned. Where I'm from
peaches grow like weeds and need lots of pruning, sometimes severe.
For the apple trim the branches back to the bud closest to the tree. They
can be removed totally later if desired but will produce leaves for growth.
Most should provide the foundation for your cordon. Some people say to cut
the branches back to a bud half way back to the trunk. This gives more
leaves for growth and can always be trimmed back further later. Unlike
peaches, the central leader should be left until the full desired height of
the cordon is reached.
Gary
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flimbin
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: fruit trees Reply with quote

V_coerulea Wrote:
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"flimbin" flimbin.2iijjz@gardenbanter.co.uk wrote in message
news:flimbin.2iijjz@gardenbanter.co.uk...-

Just received an apple tree which I want to train as a cordon.
However,
it is about 5 ft long and there are lots of branches up the length of
the tree. Do I just cut all these back to leave just the central
stem?

I also received a peach tree which I want to train as a fan. This is
also about 5 feet long with side branches all the way up as well .
The
lowest 2 branches are on opposite sides at about the right height,
but
thy are weak looking. Should I still prune just above these 2
branches?

Incidentally, I also got a cherry tree, but I dont have any worries
with this.




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flimbin-

The biggest mistake people make in wanting to train a tree is thinking
that
they have to start immediately. What you need to start first is a
healthy
root system and good growth. So the training can wait especially on the

apple. Peaches are much faster growing. Cut out some of the branches on
the
peach that are obviously out of your 2-D plan and wait until new growth
is
underway. Don't depend on any existing side growth for your ultimate
framework. Leave plenty of leaves since they are the growth producing
factory but snip out the top few inches of your center growth. This
will
induce lots of side bud development for about a foot or so on down the
stem.
Select from these to be your framework but you don't need to prune the

others out until next winter when you can really begin to start
shaping.
Remember you want lots of leaves. If you want to start your fan lower,
then
snip the center growth a little lower than I mentionned. Where I'm from

peaches grow like weeds and need lots of pruning, sometimes severe.
For the apple trim the branches back to the bud closest to the tree.
They
can be removed totally later if desired but will produce leaves for
growth.
Most should provide the foundation for your cordon. Some people say to
cut
the branches back to a bud half way back to the trunk. This gives more

leaves for growth and can always be trimmed back further later. Unlike

peaches, the central leader should be left until the full desired
height of
the cordon is reached.
Gary


Thanks. That's really useful and I guess I was making the mistake you
mention at the start!




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