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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: How much force to tip over a tree Reply with quote

I have a columnar white pine tree, about 40 feet tall and maybe
8" in daimeter at the base, I need to remove. I am considering
trying to use an old climbing rope and a come-along to winch
it out of the ground. I figure that if I attach the rope to the tree
about 30 feet from the ground, it shouldn't be too hard to winch
it over. I would used prussiks to allow me to pull it multiple winch-
fulls to move it far enough to break roots (with a little axe help maybe).
Does anyone have any idea how much force this should take?
Will it work?

Bob
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: How much force to tip over a tree Reply with quote

On 23 Oct 2006 17:07:21 -0700, "Tater" <tater1337@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
other poster: some people dont like chainsaws. if it was me and I
couldnt burn it, I'd ask someone if they want free firewood, if that
fails, i'd use a winch to pull the tree gently in one direction, and
start diggin roots, maybe flood with water depending on soil
conditions.

I got some 50ft pines i will eventually get rid of, if no one claims
firewood out of them, I might have to try this.

If you join your local Freecycle group www.freecycle.org or post the
wood on Craigslist for free, believe me, people will come running for
it, especially now before winter hits. Your free wood will be even
more popular if you can cut down the tree into more manageable
lengths, but I'm sure that could be a point of negotiation. Good
luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: How much force to tip over a tree Reply with quote

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:19:10 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
I have a columnar white pine tree, about 40 feet tall and maybe
8" in daimeter at the base, I need to remove. I am considering
trying to use an old climbing rope and a come-along to winch
it out of the ground. I figure that if I attach the rope to the tree
about 30 feet from the ground, it shouldn't be too hard to winch
it over. I would used prussiks to allow me to pull it multiple winch-
fulls to move it far enough to break roots (with a little axe help maybe).
Does anyone have any idea how much force this should take?
Will it work?

Bob

A strong wind that would create an equally loaded force can uproot

a pine. Pines do have a weaker root system than most trees but putting
a winch at one point on the tree will not uproot the pine. It will
only snap the trunk and cause your winch to fly back at you.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: How much force to tip over a tree Reply with quote

I have this technique many times on various tree types. The biggest is probably about the same dia as yours. I don't think you need to go 30 ft up 15 is probably plenty. I don't think prussic is good, just a biener on each end with the climbing rope looped thru as many times as is possible. Reduces stretch and stress on rope. Useful to have a quality come-along no 9.95 harbor freight. Useful to soak the ground at base over a day or so. Have long handle axe handy to hack off any roots that reveal stress. Before the tree comes over switching the pull point to the opposite side can make the stump eaiser to remove.

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