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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: when to transplant asters, mums, daisies, etc? Reply with quote

Hello,

Stores sell asters at this time of year, because they are in bloom (in
the Northern hemisphere, anyway). But bloom time does not necessarily
mean planting time. When is the right time of year to transplant
aster, mums, daisies, etc? I've heard lots of different answers to
that question, and it would be nice to get the *right* answer.

Thank you!

Ted Shoemaker, certified Gray Thumb

Madison, Wisconsin, US

USDA zone 4/5
AHS heat zone 4/5
Sunset zone 43
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: when to transplant asters, mums, daisies, etc? Reply with quote

<shoemakerted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hello,

Stores sell asters at this time of year, because they are in bloom (in
the Northern hemisphere, anyway). But bloom time does not necessarily
mean planting time. When is the right time of year to transplant
aster, mums, daisies, etc? I've heard lots of different answers to
that question, and it would be nice to get the *right* answer.

Thank you!

Ted Shoemaker, certified Gray Thumb

Madison, Wisconsin, US

USDA zone 4/5
AHS heat zone 4/5
Sunset zone 43


Keep in mind that many of those plants are bought by people who will use
them as house plants for a month or two and then throw them away. If
Madison's anything like upstate NY, you'll see those plants in stores until
they run out. Here, that can be as late as Thanksgiving. If you want to
plant them, the idea time is mid to late September, or more generally,
whatever date gives them 4-6 weeks of UNfrozen ground so they can begin
establishing a root system.
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Cheryl Isaak
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: when to transplant asters, mums, daisies, etc? Reply with quote

On 10/7/06 10:05 PM, in article M1ZVg.2545$ya1.1794@news02.roc.ny,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
shoemakerted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160262635.663065.260290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello,

Stores sell asters at this time of year, because they are in bloom (in
the Northern hemisphere, anyway). But bloom time does not necessarily
mean planting time. When is the right time of year to transplant
aster, mums, daisies, etc? I've heard lots of different answers to
that question, and it would be nice to get the *right* answer.

Thank you!

Ted Shoemaker, certified Gray Thumb

Madison, Wisconsin, US

USDA zone 4/5
AHS heat zone 4/5
Sunset zone 43


Keep in mind that many of those plants are bought by people who will use
them as house plants for a month or two and then throw them away. If
Madison's anything like upstate NY, you'll see those plants in stores until
they run out. Here, that can be as late as Thanksgiving. If you want to
plant them, the idea time is mid to late September, or more generally,
whatever date gives them 4-6 weeks of UNfrozen ground so they can begin
establishing a root system.



Optimally, I'd do all that in the spring. One trick you might use is
overwintering them in the pot tucked into your leaf pile and covered with
another inch or more of chopped leaves. Uncover as early as possible in the
spring and transplant when the soil is workable again. It won't be 100%
survival, but you should manage a goodly percentage.

Cheryl
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JoeSpareBedroom
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: when to transplant asters, mums, daisies, etc? Reply with quote

"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:C14DFC3E.605F2%cherylisaak@adelphia.net...
Quote:
On 10/7/06 10:05 PM, in article M1ZVg.2545$ya1.1794@news02.roc.ny,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

shoemakerted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160262635.663065.260290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello,

Stores sell asters at this time of year, because they are in bloom (in
the Northern hemisphere, anyway). But bloom time does not necessarily
mean planting time. When is the right time of year to transplant
aster, mums, daisies, etc? I've heard lots of different answers to
that question, and it would be nice to get the *right* answer.

Thank you!

Ted Shoemaker, certified Gray Thumb

Madison, Wisconsin, US

USDA zone 4/5
AHS heat zone 4/5
Sunset zone 43


Keep in mind that many of those plants are bought by people who will use
them as house plants for a month or two and then throw them away. If
Madison's anything like upstate NY, you'll see those plants in stores
until
they run out. Here, that can be as late as Thanksgiving. If you want to
plant them, the idea time is mid to late September, or more generally,
whatever date gives them 4-6 weeks of UNfrozen ground so they can begin
establishing a root system.



Optimally, I'd do all that in the spring. One trick you might use is
overwintering them in the pot tucked into your leaf pile and covered with
another inch or more of chopped leaves. Uncover as early as possible in
the
spring and transplant when the soil is workable again. It won't be 100%
survival, but you should manage a goodly percentage.

Cheryl

The plants in question often struggle to survive in zone 5. Why would you
not want to get them in the ground? In pots, their roots are more likely to
suffer physical damage from repeated thawing and freezing.
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Cheryl Isaak
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: when to transplant asters, mums, daisies, etc? Reply with quote

On 10/8/06 1:07 AM, in article oI%Vg.2577$ya1.1976@news02.roc.ny,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:C14DFC3E.605F2%cherylisaak@adelphia.net...
On 10/7/06 10:05 PM, in article M1ZVg.2545$ya1.1794@news02.roc.ny,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

shoemakerted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160262635.663065.260290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello,

Stores sell asters at this time of year, because they are in bloom (in
the Northern hemisphere, anyway). But bloom time does not necessarily
mean planting time. When is the right time of year to transplant
aster, mums, daisies, etc? I've heard lots of different answers to
that question, and it would be nice to get the *right* answer.

Thank you!

Ted Shoemaker, certified Gray Thumb

Madison, Wisconsin, US

USDA zone 4/5
AHS heat zone 4/5
Sunset zone 43


Keep in mind that many of those plants are bought by people who will use
them as house plants for a month or two and then throw them away. If
Madison's anything like upstate NY, you'll see those plants in stores
until
they run out. Here, that can be as late as Thanksgiving. If you want to
plant them, the idea time is mid to late September, or more generally,
whatever date gives them 4-6 weeks of UNfrozen ground so they can begin
establishing a root system.



Optimally, I'd do all that in the spring. One trick you might use is
overwintering them in the pot tucked into your leaf pile and covered with
another inch or more of chopped leaves. Uncover as early as possible in
the
spring and transplant when the soil is workable again. It won't be 100%
survival, but you should manage a goodly percentage.

Cheryl

The plants in question often struggle to survive in zone 5. Why would you
not want to get them in the ground? In pots, their roots are more likely to
suffer physical damage from repeated thawing and freezing.


I've done both - plant with about 50% success and over winter in pots on the

ground shrouded in chopped leaves with 80%. I think the chopped leaves
supply a more reliable temperature as they freeze and stay frozen while the
main garden (being in full sun) has unreliable snow cover and the plants are
subject to heaving. You could also sink potted plants to avoid heaving.


Good Luck,

Cheryl
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