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Too_Many_Tools
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 Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
TMT |
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Gene Cash
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:31 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> writes:
| Quote: | Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
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Whatever sells? I think most of it is excess production or slight
cosmetic flaws from what I can see, and strange stuff that didn't sell
to whatever the manufacturer's original target market was.
I do know they sell a lot of weird metalworking stuff that I would be
totally screwed without. Like their "vise brake" that I used to bend
some small brackets for my motorcycle. Or the small 1-ton arbor press I
have.
Most of it isn't great quality, but it's AVAILABLE, and it does ok in
the light duty environment where I use it. I make sure to wear safety
goggles and watch my fingers.
I recently discovered their 6" bench vise is identical to Home Depot's
"Wilton Heavy Duty Bench Vise" and even the picture on the websites are
almost identical, except for a nameplate.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3796
http://www.homedepot.com/cmc_upload/HDUS/EN_US/asset/images/eplus/019907111061_3.jpg
(or search for "wilton vise" at homedepot.com - the search result URL
has a session cookie that makes it useless to post.)
I still can't figure out why they're selling nice 1/6th scale diecast
very-well-done car engine models. I bought a bunch though! :)
-gc
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Richard J Kinch
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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Too_Many_Tools writes:
Chinese manufacturers have marketing departments and trade shows too. |
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StaticsJason
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156784379.798242.231460@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
TMT
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I spoke with the local H.F. store manager about this last summer. He said
at one time corporate allowed him to order whatever he wanted. Now they
ship him only what they want him to sell, no more and no less. It doesn't
appear that he was stocking the store poorly, simply that corporate wanted
complete control of the stores product lines. This also gives corporate the
ability to keep items as mail order only from their catalog...
StaticsJason |
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Spehro Pefhany
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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On 28 Aug 2006 09:59:39 -0700, the renowned "Too_Many_Tools"
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
TMT
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I suspect it's all up to the judgment of the buyers for the chain. Out
of a vast constellation of available products, they look at what's out
there, negotiate a price, and tell the supplier to make minor changes
(name, perhaps color).
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Gunner
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:44:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
| Quote: | On 28 Aug 2006 09:59:39 -0700, the renowned "Too_Many_Tools"
too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
TMT
I suspect it's all up to the judgment of the buyers for the chain. Out
of a vast constellation of available products, they look at what's out
there, negotiate a price, and tell the supplier to make minor changes
(name, perhaps color).
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Id say so also. It appears though..that they hire intelligent buyers
with some background in getting their hands dirty, and some knowledge
of the public that also does.
Gunner
"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third
hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're
around."
"Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right
before demode` (out of fashion).
-Buddy Jordan 2001 |
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Too_Many_Tools
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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While we on this subject, what tools would you like Harbor Freight to
sell that they don't?
For me a Millwaukee magnetic drill clone, cordless cordless bandsaw,
endmill grinder and surface grinder come to mind.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
| Quote: | Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
TMT |
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knowone
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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"Eieniey, mieniey, mieney mo"
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156784379.798242.231460@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Recently I walked through a Harbor Freight store while the wife was
shopping for shoes (poor misguided woman) and I found myself trying to
understand how Harbor Freight decides what to sell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
TMT
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Bruce L. Bergman
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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On 29 Aug 2006 09:58:56 -0700, "Too_Many_Tools"
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | While we on this subject, what tools would you like Harbor Freight to
sell that they don't?
For me a Millwaukee magnetic drill clone, cordless cordless bandsaw,
endmill grinder and surface grinder come to mind.
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Lets see...
A reasonably priced small Nitrogen Generator sized for the home shop
or where they only fill a few tires a day. Even if it's slow it has
overnight to catch up and fill the accumulator.
--<< Bruce >>-- |
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Larry Jaques
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:16:35 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Bruce
L. Bergman <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> quickly quoth:
| Quote: | On 29 Aug 2006 09:58:56 -0700, "Too_Many_Tools"
too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
While we on this subject, what tools would you like Harbor Freight to
sell that they don't?
For me a Millwaukee magnetic drill clone, cordless cordless bandsaw,
endmill grinder and surface grinder come to mind.
Lets see...
A reasonably priced small Nitrogen Generator sized for the home shop
or where they only fill a few tires a day. Even if it's slow it has
overnight to catch up and fill the accumulator.
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Yes, having nitrogen instead of that ghastly AIR in my tires is of
utmost importance to me, too, Bruce. <running away>
How about something more useful, like a $200 80 amp PLASMA CUTTER?
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Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
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David Harmon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:16:35 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking, Bruce
L. Bergman <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote,
| Quote: | A reasonably priced small Nitrogen Generator sized for the home shop
or where they only fill a few tires a day. Even if it's slow it has
overnight to catch up and fill the accumulator.
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Liquid nitrogen? |
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Too_Many_Tools
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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Yep...I have to add a plasma cutter to my list of HF wants.
TMT
Larry Jaques wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:16:35 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Bruce
L. Bergman <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> quickly quoth:
On 29 Aug 2006 09:58:56 -0700, "Too_Many_Tools"
too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
While we on this subject, what tools would you like Harbor Freight to
sell that they don't?
For me a Millwaukee magnetic drill clone, cordless cordless bandsaw,
endmill grinder and surface grinder come to mind.
Lets see...
A reasonably priced small Nitrogen Generator sized for the home shop
or where they only fill a few tires a day. Even if it's slow it has
overnight to catch up and fill the accumulator.
Yes, having nitrogen instead of that ghastly AIR in my tires is of
utmost importance to me, too, Bruce. <running away
How about something more useful, like a $200 80 amp PLASMA CUTTER?
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979) |
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Leon Fisk
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:16:35 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
<blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | On 29 Aug 2006 09:58:56 -0700, "Too_Many_Tools"
too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote:
While we on this subject, what tools would you like Harbor Freight to
sell that they don't?
For me a Millwaukee magnetic drill clone, cordless cordless bandsaw,
endmill grinder and surface grinder come to mind.
Lets see...
A reasonably priced small Nitrogen Generator sized for the home shop
or where they only fill a few tires a day. Even if it's slow it has
overnight to catch up and fill the accumulator.
--<< Bruce >>--
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They've been running commercials lately for how wonderful it
is to fill your tires with Nitrogen, but...
The Earths atmosphere is already ~78% Nitrogen, will another
12% really make that much difference? Me thinks that is
mostly just a sales gimmick, but I'll listen/read the
responses :)
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Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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Gene Cash
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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Leon Fisk <lfisk@no.spam.iserv.net> writes:
| Quote: | They've been running commercials lately for how wonderful it is to
fill your tires with Nitrogen, but...
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I'd think the advantages are about the same as being able to fill with
dry air. In the crappy Florida climate, you can get sprayed by water
coming out of those cheap coin-operated compressors.
The water vapor changes pressure so much with any temperature change it
makes trying to keep any sort of constant pressure hell.
So if I can get some LN2 (and I can, at the local welder's gas/dry ice
shoppe) is there something that I can pour it into and cap, so it'll
evaporate and pressurize? Kind of like one of those 10gal air tanks
with a liquid inlet?
-gc
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developed all this capability, instead of taking advantage of it, they'll
probably just piss it all away.
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Steve Ackman
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Harbor Freight - How Do They Decide What To Sell? |
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In <1156950458.171193.114180@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, on 30 Aug
2006 08:07:38 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
| Quote: | Yep...I have to add a plasma cutter to my list of HF wants.
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Not HF, but have you looked at these?
| Quote: | http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQamp;sspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcatrefZC5QQfbdZ1QQfclZ3QQflocZ1QQfromZR6QQfrppZ50QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfssZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQsaaffZafdefaultQQsacatZQ2d1QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslZsmileytoolsQQsaslcZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsofocusZbs
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http://tinyurl.com/eph4f |
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