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George Orwell · Guest

I'd like to express my thoughts on the entire Mel Gibson debacle that
erupted after his arrest for allegedly being drunk and operating a
motor vehicle. First of all, this is America and Mel has the right to
express himself. I can't count the amount of anti-Bush/Cheney remarks
that I've read or heard on various talk shows. Where is the outcry
against those remarks? Why is it acceptable for money grubbing jews to
insult the Christian so-called "religious right" while it is
considered anti-semetic for someone to express their beliefs about
jews? What did Mel do wrong? The answer is nothing. The liberal media
have once again blown this out of porportion. What Gibson asked the
waste of skin that called himself a police officer was "Are you a
jew?". That is a legitimate question in this day and age although
granted, you won't see many jews in law enforcement because of the
risks involved in said occupation. I think we all know why.
The question is legitimate because Mel and countless others are well
aware of the jewish agenda that was enacted shortly after the fall of
Nazi Germany. Gibson also noted that the jews are behind most wars. Is
that false? What is going on right here, right now?
I say that people should wake up and smell the coffee. Mel Gibson is a
hero as far as I'm concerned. Leave Mel alone!

Healthy Stealthy

DayTripper1966 · Guest

George Orwell wrote:
Mel Gibson is a

draw Tippy · Guest

George Orwell wrote:
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Hey, George... some advice for you:

When your IQ hits 80, sell.

Dale Houstman · Guest

George Orwell wrote:

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Guest · Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: I support Mel Gibson

Put Mel up against the wall ...

JohnB · Guest

Rev. Bleech_ wrote:

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Guest · Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: I support Mel Gibson

Christopher Hitchens, www.slate.com

Published: Tuesday, August 01, 2006

I was just in the middle of writing a long and tedious essay, about how
to tell a real anti-Semite from a person who too-loudly rejects the
charge of anti-Semitism, when a near-perfect real-life example came to
hand. That bad actor and worse director Mel Gibson, pulled over for the
alleged offence of speeding and the further alleged offence of speeding
under the influence, decided that he needed to demand of the arresting
officer whether he was or was not Jewish and that he furthermore needed
to impart the information that all the world's wars are begun by those
of Semitic extraction.

Call me thin-skinned if you must, but I think that this qualifies. I
also think that the difference between the blood-alcohol levels -- and
indeed the speed limits -- that occasioned the booking are insufficient
to explain the expletives (as Gibson has since claimed in a typically
self-pitying and verbose statement put out by his publicist). One does
not abruptly decide, between the first and second vodka, or the ticks
of the indicator of velocity, that the Protocols of the Learned Elders
of Zion are valid after all.

There's a lot to dislike about Gibson. He is given to furious tirades
against homosexuals of the sort that make one wonder if he has some
kind of subliminal or "unaddressed" problem. His vulgar and nasty
movies, which also feature this prejudice, are additionally replete
with the cheapest caricatures of the English. Braveheart and The
Patriot are two of the most laughable historical films ever made.
(Englishmen don't form picket lines outside movie theatres when
"stereotyped," but still.) He has told interviewers that his wife, the
mother of his children, is going to Hell because she subscribes to the
wrong Christian sect (a view that he justifies as "a pronouncement from
the chair"). And it has been obvious for some time to the most meager
intelligence that he is sick to his empty core with Jew-hatred.

This is not just proved by his twistedly homoerotic spank-movie The
Passion of the Christ, even though that ghastly production did focus
obsessively on the one passage in the one of the four Gospels that
tries to convict the Jewish people en masse of the hysterical charge of
Christ-killing or "deicide." It is validated by his fealty to his
earthly father, a crackpot who belongs to a Catholic splinter group of
which our Mel is a member. This group more or less lives off the stench
of medieval anti-Semitism.

Allow me (as one who has Mel's father's books to hand) to give you an
example. In an attempt a few years ago to heal the breach between the
Vatican and the Jews, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger did his best to
make nice. Jews did not accept Jesus as saviour and redeemer, said the
man who is now the pope, but they did originate monotheism. Therefore,
Judaism could perhaps be regarded in some ways as an "elder brother" of
Christianity. The response of Gibson senior was to say that Abel also
had an elder brother.

I do not believe for an instant that the sins of the fathers should
descend to later generations. But when asked about his old man's many
effusions on this subject, from the cheery view that the Jewish
population of Europe actually increased in Hitler's day to the no less
upbeat opinion that persons unknown brought down the World Trade
Center, the younger Gibson stonewalled consistently by saying that "my
father has never told me a lie."
At the time he said this, I was impressed despite myself. He was being
invited to disown a raging Jew-baiter at the same time that he was
trying to cash in with a Hollywood epic. And he wouldn't do it! All
credit for true and staunch conviction. Or so I then thought.

At the time when The Passion of the Christ was being released, many
nervous evangelical Christians tried to get the more horrifying bits of
anti-Semitic incitement toned down. (The crazy scene where the rabbis
demand the blood of Jesus on their own heads was taken out of
subtitles, for example, but left as it was in Aramaic.) Many
conservative Jews, from David Horowitz to Rabbi Daniel Lapin, stuck up
for Gibson as a man who defended family values against secular
nihilism. And the Muslim world allowed the movie to be screened widely,
though from Ben-Hur to King of Kings it had prohibited the physical
representation of any "prophet" mentioned, as Jesus is, in the Koran.
(Don't ask yourself why this was, unless you want to feel stupid.) It
was even proudly announced that Gibson's next big project would be
about the Holocaust.

Whether Gibson tries this last catch-penny profanity or not, it is time
to lower the boom on him. Those who endorsed his previous obscene
blockbuster are obliged to say something now or be ignored ever after.
But this should not be yet another spectacle of the "offensive" and the
"inappropriate," swiftly succeeded by repentance and perhaps -- who
knows? -- a joint press conference with Elie Wiesel. Gibson did not
"misspeak"; indeed according to many trustworthy reports, he nearly
copped the customary celebrity "get out of jail free" card and had his
remarks stricken from the record. (When will the sheriffs decide to
release the evidence?)

No, he spoke his "mind," and in case anyone wants to burble about
political correctness, it should be added that he spoke this way
because of his religion, not just his warped personality. Let him keep
the fortune he made from a pogrom movie, and let him by all means
continue to sponsor his Latin Mass sectarian church in Malibu, where
sinners are thick on the ground. But there was another touch of in vino
veritas when he tearfully told the cops that "my life is f---ed," and
this inadvertent truth ought to be remembered in all charity as the
last words we ever want to hear from him.

- Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair. His most recent
book is Thomas Jefferson: Author of America.

© National Post 2006

Lookingglass · Guest

Gibson apologizes for making "despicable statements" he does NOT believe...

....I don't get it... am I missing something?

dave (...the Judge does not agree, and tells them so...oh oh oh...)
www.Shemakhan.com

Guest · Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: I support Mel Gibson

Rev. Bleech_ wrote:

Guest · Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: I support Mel Gibson

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Guest · Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: I support Mel Gibson

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