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zxcvbob Guest
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: Cornelian Cherry (cornus mas) |
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I bought a 3' bare-root tree this spring, and it has just now really
started growing. It has probably been growing roots all this time,
because it didn't have many when I bought it. The most vigorous growth
is near the bottom. It has little branches coming out all over the
trunk. I want this to be a small specimen tree, not a shrub, but
multi-trunked like an river birch might be nice. I definitely want it
open at the bottom and not all twiggy.
Do I need to leave all these new twigs for now and then start trimming
it next year? I'm hesitant to remove any leaves this late in the
season. I'm in the southern part of zone 4, which is pretty far north
for this tree.
If I let it grow 2 or 3 trunks, will these be from suckers that come up
from the ground next year, or this year's new twigs that are right at
the ground level?
Thanks, regards,
Bob |
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: Re: Cornelian Cherry (cornus mas) |
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Hi Bob
| Quote: | From the way you are talking about this tree it sounds like you know
that this species has the ability to have a single type trunk. Being |
that the case, you should train it that way. Letting it have multiple
trunks usually is not a good idea because they will compete for sun
light to be the lead trunk(or limb) for the tree. When this happens all
the limbs grow to the outside of the limb making it unbalanced and
susceptible to wind damage. The Y were the branch (extra trunk connects
to the trunk) is weak because of the angle being to sharp. Well your
probably saying what do I do? I know the last thing that you want to do
is prune it right now but that is what should be done. The tree didn't
have enough roots when you bought it and it has been building it's root
system. It's hard to figure what caused the problem but the sooner it
is corrected the better. Always keep in mind about that limbs are
always competing for light when your pruning anything. When you cut
those suckers off the smaller they are the better it is for the healing
process to lake place. look at where the sucker is attached you should
see like a little donut right at the base of it. on the sucker side is
where you want to cut it. The tree will heal the fastest and therefore
have better chance of not getting infected or bug infestation which
also takes longer if you wait. Their sucker probably will try again but
they will stop if they are cut off young you could be setting yourself
up for fighting a loosing battle.
Hope that helps
Dave
zxcvbn wrote:
| Quote: | I bought a 3' bare-root tree this spring, and it has just now really
started growing. It has probably been growing roots all this time,
because it didn't have many when I bought it. The most vigorous growth
is near the bottom. It has little branches coming out all over the
trunk. I want this to be a small specimen tree, not a shrub, but
multi-trunked like an river birch might be nice. I definitely want it
open at the bottom and not all twiggy.
Do I need to leave all these new twigs for now and then start trimming
it next year? I'm hesitant to remove any leaves this late in the
season. I'm in the southern part of zone 4, which is pretty far north
for this tree.
If I let it grow 2 or 3 trunks, will these be from suckers that come up
from the ground next year, or this year's new twigs that are right at
the ground level?
Thanks, regards,
Bob |
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craterr Guest
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Cornelian Cherry (cornus mas) |
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Re the Cornelian Cherry (Cornus mas) I have grown C mas for many years and
have four trees in my yard. I do not feel that they are a single trunk
tree. All nurserymen that I have talked to say that it is a multi trunked
tree. I know some people that have tried to keep it pruned to one trunk and
it is a constant pruning job. Also as you prune out of season you have
wounds that can get infected. My point is not that you can't keep it pruned
to a single stem but it is more beautiful in most cases when you let it bush
out and has more flowers in early spring.
I call it my ChristMAS dogwood because of the C. mas and it blooms here
in late January or early Feb. It is a beautiful tree to be covered in
yellow blooms that time of the year when other things are not blooming.
Good luck in trying to make it a single trunk
Neb |
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zxcvbob Guest
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Cornelian Cherry (cornus mas) |
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craterr wrote:
| Quote: | Re the Cornelian Cherry (Cornus mas) I have grown C mas for many years and
have four trees in my yard. I do not feel that they are a single trunk
tree. All nurserymen that I have talked to say that it is a multi trunked
tree. I know some people that have tried to keep it pruned to one trunk and
it is a constant pruning job. Also as you prune out of season you have
wounds that can get infected. My point is not that you can't keep it pruned
to a single stem but it is more beautiful in most cases when you let it bush
out and has more flowers in early spring.
I call it my ChristMAS dogwood because of the C. mas and it blooms here
in late January or early Feb. It is a beautiful tree to be covered in
yellow blooms that time of the year when other things are not blooming.
Good luck in trying to make it a single trunk
Neb
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Can you keep it a multi-trunk tree without constant pruning, or is it
always trying to revert to a giant shrub? (like an old-fashioned lilac)
All the pix I've seen have been a ball-shape that branches all the way
to the ground. I don't want to try to force it into an unnatural form.
I'm not going to remove any of the new twigs coming off the trunk this
fall (don't want to remove any leaves), but I may pinch the growing tips
out to divert energy to the upper growth. I will thin the lower growth
this winter, or maybe remove all of it.
Bob |
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Joseph S. Larson Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Cornelian Cherry (cornus mas) |
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Bob: Cornelian cherry, in my experience, wants to look like a shrub. Mine
tried hard to be one, and I had to trim it constantly to get it to look like
a tree.
It sends out suckers every year fromthe base to the lower branches, and I
keep cutting off the suckers. What you might do is let maybe two or three
twigs grow for a year, see which one is the most vigorous, and prune out the
others. Of course, the line of least resistance is let it do it's thing
and be a shrubby tree, but if you end up with a lot of leaders as Dave says,
it'll be subject to splitting. It's a great tree, tho, very attractive with
its
fuzzy yellow blooms well before forsythia blooms. I've never had fruit on
mine, but when they produce well, it's very colorful then too. Good luck
with it!
Wendy in Zone 5 |
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