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Bill in Schenectady
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

Are steam heating pipes too hot to take conventional hot water pipe
insulation? If so, can someone recommend a good way to insulate the steam
pipes in my basement that feed the house steam heating system?

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Bill in Schenectady
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RicodJour
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

Bill in Schenectady wrote:
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Are steam heating pipes too hot to take conventional hot water pipe
insulation? If so, can someone recommend a good way to insulate the steam
pipes in my basement that feed the house steam heating system?

This is what you want.
http://www.owenscorning.com/comminsul/products.asp?product=15&system=83

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Mark
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

RicodJour wrote:
Quote:
Bill in Schenectady wrote:
Are steam heating pipes too hot to take conventional hot water pipe
insulation? If so, can someone recommend a good way to insulate the steam
pipes in my basement that feed the house steam heating system?

This is what you want.
http://www.owenscorning.com/comminsul/products.asp?product=15&system=83

R

residential steam pipe (under very little pressure) is only a little
above 212 deg F.

Mark
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Bill in Schenectady
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

"Mark" <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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RicodJour wrote:
Bill in Schenectady wrote:
Are steam heating pipes too hot to take conventional hot water pipe
insulation? If so, can someone recommend a good way to insulate the
steam
pipes in my basement that feed the house steam heating system?

This is what you want.
http://www.owenscorning.com/comminsul/products.asp?product=15&system=83

R

residential steam pipe (under very little pressure) is only a little
above 212 deg F.

Mark

Does that mean that I can get away with standard hot water pipe foam

insulation? It doesn't seem like I need an industrial solution for a common
household situation (at least in old houses like mine).
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Edwin Pawlowski
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

"Bill in Schenectady" <billnech@msn.com> wrote in message
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residential steam pipe (under very little pressure) is only a little
above 212 deg F.

Mark

Does that mean that I can get away with standard hot water pipe foam
insulation? It doesn't seem like I need an industrial solution for a
common household situation (at least in old houses like mine).

Nope. According to this, it is good for 210 degrees. Yu are working with
215 or so.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2126067&cp=1254880.1255024.1306491&parentPage=family&searchId=1306491

This company states NON-steam pipes for their brand
http://amconservationgroup.com/catalog.aspx?catid=103

I'd go with the fiberglass that was recommended. It is easy to install and
will last forever.
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Bill in Schenectady
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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"Bill in Schenectady" <billnech@msn.com> wrote in message

residential steam pipe (under very little pressure) is only a little
above 212 deg F.

Mark

Does that mean that I can get away with standard hot water pipe foam
insulation? It doesn't seem like I need an industrial solution for a
common household situation (at least in old houses like mine).

Nope. According to this, it is good for 210 degrees. Yu are working with
215 or so.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2126067&cp=1254880.1255024.1306491&parentPage=family&searchId=1306491

This company states NON-steam pipes for their brand
http://amconservationgroup.com/catalog.aspx?catid=103

I'd go with the fiberglass that was recommended. It is easy to install and
will last forever.
thanks...but can I find this in a standard home depot/lowes?
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Edwin Pawlowski
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

"Bill in Schenectady" <billnech@msn.com> wrote in message
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thanks...but can I find this in a standard home depot/lowes?

I don't know, but a real plumbing supply will have it.
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Bill in Schenectady
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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"Bill in Schenectady" <billnech@msn.com> wrote in message
thanks...but can I find this in a standard home depot/lowes?

I don't know, but a real plumbing supply will have it.

Thanks...I'll give that a try.
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RicodJour
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

Bill in Schenectady wrote:
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message

I'd go with the fiberglass that was recommended. It is easy to install and
will last forever.

thanks...but can I find this in a standard home depot/lowes?

Yep.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

I dare you to try the two and I bet the reflectix will have the same
outer temperature. Who needs 3" of insulation on a steam pipe when
3/8" or less of reflectix will do the same for less $$$.

On Nov 8, 5:38 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Nov 8, 3:52 pm, big...@backpacker.com wrote:





How will it work better? R- value is similar. Costs are not. I'll
take the inexpensive and effective solution any day.

On Nov 8, 4:39 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quality pipe insulation will work better and last way longer than that stuff.http://www.owenscorning.com/comminsul/products.asp?product=15

Bob

big...@backpacker.com> wrote in message

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All I know is IT WORKS!!! Was cheap and easy to work with. If I can
comfrtably hold a steam pipe I know its reflecting and/or containing
the heat.. R value is meaningless in a situation like this where
results are what matter. Aesthetics also play a role as well. I'll
take the silver look of reflectix over the half-a**ed look of wall
insulation wired over the pipes.

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Reflextic has little R value, What is its certified R value, im in
dought it has anything close to its advertisement. Ive had fiberglass
on pipes for 20 years, since when does Fiber Glass dry out, For value
of true R value Fiberglass, then Pipe insulation the reflextic would
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Reflextic site says R4 total and down plays R value, Owens Corning is
R5 per inch, I have seen the product 2-3" inches thick, it is a
superior product made for the job. I used fiberglass batts in unused
basements of 6" thick, that is about R 21. It was just quicker,
cheaper and easy to install. I will bet reflextic to have the highest
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Insulating steam pipes Reply with quote

bigjim@backpacker.com wrote:
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All I know is IT WORKS!!!

That's what they say about the Q-Ray bracelet.

- Rodger
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