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Bruce C.
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: Need some guidance |
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I'm looking to build a small boat for weekend outings and maybe lake or
river tours lasting probably up to about a week. Nothing long term. Just me
and my wife. I haven't found a design on the web that I especially like, but
I think I can combine the features of 3 boats to make something closer to
what I want.
We are getting close to retirement and want to spend more time on the water.
I have a little john boat that I use for some lake fishing and I have a toy
sail boat that is not comfortable nor dry.
Here goes:
I like the Kingston15:
http://www.angelfire.com/ks/diyplans/kingston15.html
(watch out for pop-ups)
The Kingston appears to fit all my basic requirements, but I have a few
concerns. I believe I would like a full length keel similar to the
Weekender. It would protect the hull from groundings and other accidental
impacts and it might help in sailing closer to the wind (less lee way). I
also like the hull extensions found on the Vagabond20+ - they help by
lengthening the dynamic water line and provide a little extra storage.
So the questions are:
1. How significant is a full length keel. What are the plusses and minuses?
2. How useful are the hull extensions for sailing performance?
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William R. Watt
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Need some guidance |
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"Bruce C." (bwc.nospam@comcast.net) writes:
| Quote: | 1. How significant is a full length keel. What are the plusses and minuses?
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plus: shallow draft when sailing
roomier cabin without centreboard trunk
minus: poorer steering response
harder to get on and off a trailer
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Bruce C.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Need some guidance |
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Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of the impact on steering response, but
now that I think about it, it makes sense. The Kingston15 has a small
daggerboard offset from center (I believe the keel would eliminate the need
for that, just as you mentioned). If the keel extends about 8 inches below
the hull, I don't see much negative impact on loading on the trailer.
I'm not familiar with all the boating terminology. What is the name for the
style where the cabin top extends all the way to the hull? Anyway, I don't
see boats with this cabin style that also have a full length keel. Perhaps
I'm overestimating the value of the long keel for absorbing impact damage.
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"Bruce C." (bwc.nospam@comcast.net) writes:
1. How significant is a full length keel. What are the plusses and
minuses?
plus: shallow draft when sailing
roomier cabin without centreboard trunk
minus: poorer steering response
harder to get on and off a trailer
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Wayne.B
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:46 am Post subject: Re: Need some guidance |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:24:15 -0600, "Bruce C."
<bwc.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | We are getting close to retirement and want to spend more time on the water.
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If you really want to spend more time on the water, I'd recommend
buying a good used boat. There are a lot out there and prices are
very negotiable. |
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William R. Watt
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Need some guidance |
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"Bruce C." (bwc.nospam@comcast.net) writes:
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I'm not familiar with all the boating terminology. What is the name for the
style where the cabin top extends all the way to the hull? Anyway, I don't
see boats with this cabin style that also have a full length keel. Perhaps
I'm overestimating the value of the long keel for absorbing impact damage.
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I think the term you're looking for is "flush deck".
A term for the type of boat you are writing about is "pocket cruiser".
I roughly designed an inexpensive lightweight one for canal and river
sailing and put the design steps on my website (see below) under "Boats,
Solo15". It has an offset centreboard. I guess that would be a "bilgeboard".
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Wayne.B
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Need some guidance |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:54:24 -0500, Jim Conlin <conlin@comcast.net>
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| Quote: | So, buy a good old boat and go get some experience.
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Absolutely right. Building a boat of any size at all is a very big
project that is guaranteed to take 2 or 3 times longer than your
wildest estimate, and with matching cost over runs. If you really
want to build a boat I'd recommend something small. |
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