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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:34 am Post subject: Zinc Chromate |
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I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate? |
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Len Guest
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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Richard@Kollmann-marine.com wrote:
| Quote: | I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate?
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Try Yec (Yachtpaints Equipment and Consultancy) in Vollenhove for
info. I met one of their consultants and am quite satisfied with their
knowledge. I'll email you with the number and address.
Good luck,
Len
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Bruce on horizon Guest
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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What you have to worry about is using too slow of a solvent. If the coating
dries before the solvent escapes, you will get blistering. MEK is the
fastest solvent available to the handyman so call the Zinc chromate
manufacturer and see if MEK will react with the coating, if not, spray
away. We use a epoxy primer
http://www.shieldfinishes.com/nauticoat_epn1y1.asp and our reducer
http://www.shieldfinishes.com/nauticoat_srn12.asp reduced no more than 10%
to coat mast systems. How are you going to apply the primer?
Good Luck
Bruce
Shield Finishes and Nauticoat Marine Finish Systems
www.shieldfinishes.com
"Len" <lendenbesten@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Richard@Kollmann-marine.com wrote:
I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate?
Try Yec (Yachtpaints Equipment and Consultancy) in Vollenhove for
info. I met one of their consultants and am quite satisfied with their
knowledge. I'll email you with the number and address.
Good luck,
Len
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e.grant Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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DO NOT DO IT. Afriend of mine did it a few years in his aluminum sailboat
and had to replace all the aluminum after the galvanic action destroyed
it.(within three years) YOU may be very sorry. The aluminum becomes the
destructive anode rather than the other way around. I know this seems
conterintuitive, because it is used in aircraft, but aircraft are not
constantly immersed. Even though you state that it's the inside of the
pontoon, it could and probably will cause problems. Whats wrong with the
bare aluminum? Efflouresence? Deeply etched? Ever try lightly wiping bare
aluminum with a little ATF (red automatic transmission fluid) to seal the
surface? It works OK and it's cheap. Consult the paint manufacturer if you
want to go with the zinc chromate, there could be a special surface prep
step as well as thinning instructions. Remember, aluminum oxide on the
surface is the protectant for the substrate and unless it comes in contact
with stuff like battery acids, it does corrode but at a very slow rate.
Proceed with caution and good luck.
<Richard@Kollmann-marine.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate?
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Bruce McCampbell Guest
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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This is a classic problem of dissimilar metals. The chromate is the
sacrificial metal in the primer. As it deteriorates first, the aluminum is
saved. The best product to use is a fluid resistant strontium chromate
epoxy primer. It is resistant to the water and when it intrudes, the
chromate is the first to go.Here is a link to the product information.
http://www.shieldfinishes.com/nauticoat_epn1y1.asp
Thanks
Bruce
"Paul Oman" <pauloman@pauloman.com> wrote in message
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I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate?
use an aluminum filled moisture cured urethane (MCU) and/or an epoxy
paint.
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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"Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include
a free trip around the Sun every year."
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e.grant Guest
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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per posting of message reply to you and newsgroup,yesterday, I was mistaken,
apologies. My buddy's aluminum sailboat was painted with a copper based
paint that was mistaken for zinc chromate. You can understand why it
corroded away to nothing within three years. Sorry for the
misunderstanding. Lesson: don't use "surplus" paint marked as one thing
when it is something else. If you you do, have it analyzed, first.
<Richard@Kollmann-marine.com> wrote in message
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zinc chromate?
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MMC Guest
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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Paul,
Looks like our next boat will be a pontoon (got to go along with the wifes
wishes once in a while) and as I don't have room for a lift, the boat will
be kept in the water.
I've seen damage from bottom paint on aluminum pontoons and thought I could
barrier coat the whole pontoons and then bottom paint. Will this work and
what prep should I do prior to barrier coat?
Only things I know about aluminum is it holds beer well.
Thanks, MMC.
"Paul Oman" <pauloman@pauloman.com> wrote in message
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I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate?
use an aluminum filled moisture cured urethane (MCU) and/or an epoxy
paint.
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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"Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include
a free trip around the Sun every year."
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Paul Oman Guest
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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MMC wrote:
| Quote: | Paul,
Looks like our next boat will be a pontoon (got to go along with the wifes
wishes once in a while) and as I don't have room for a lift, the boat will
be kept in the water.
I've seen damage from bottom paint on aluminum pontoons and thought I could
barrier coat the whole pontoons and then bottom paint. Will this work and
what prep should I do prior to barrier coat?
Only things I know about aluminum is it holds beer well.
Thanks, MMC.
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Aluminum is the hardest metal to coat because it self oxidizes so quickly (why
it doesn't rust). I'm sure others will have better prep methods, but common is
to sand or wire brush to shiny and then coat immediately.
epoxy will from a physical barrier between the bottom paint and the aluminum
hull.
paul
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"Paul Oman" <pauloman@pauloman.com> wrote in message
news:41F9253B.4F87A8A5@pauloman.com...
I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate, in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to thin
zinc chromate?
use an aluminum filled moisture cured urethane (MCU) and/or an epoxy
paint.
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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MMC Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Zinc Chromate |
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Thanks Paul.
"Paul Oman" <pauloman@pauloman.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | MMC wrote:
Paul,
Looks like our next boat will be a pontoon (got to go along with the
wifes
wishes once in a while) and as I don't have room for a lift, the boat
will
be kept in the water.
I've seen damage from bottom paint on aluminum pontoons and thought I
could
barrier coat the whole pontoons and then bottom paint. Will this work and
what prep should I do prior to barrier coat?
Only things I know about aluminum is it holds beer well.
Thanks, MMC.
Aluminum is the hardest metal to coat because it self oxidizes so quickly
(why
it doesn't rust). I'm sure others will have better prep methods, but
common is
to sand or wire brush to shiny and then coat immediately.
epoxy will from a physical barrier between the bottom paint and the
aluminum
hull.
paul
"Paul Oman" <pauloman@pauloman.com> wrote in message
news:41F9253B.4F87A8A5@pauloman.com...
I need to coat the inside of an aluminum pontoon with zinc chromate,
in
order to do this it must be thinned. What solvent can be used to
thin
zinc chromate?
use an aluminum filled moisture cured urethane (MCU) and/or an epoxy
paint.
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
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