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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:55 am    Post subject: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

My dad just bout a used tiller for the tractor it has a small short pto
shaft. It is solid square metal about 1 inch or more diameter.

It is 4 inches too short. What is the cheapest way for me to get this
working?
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j.b. miller
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

Cheap is NOT necessarily SAFE !!! Try the local co-op,TSC,farm suplly place
for the correct PTO shaft,please. You may be able to trade or barter yours
for the correct one.
jay
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Moray Cuthill
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

<stryped@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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My dad just bout a used tiller for the tractor it has a small short pto
shaft. It is solid square metal about 1 inch or more diameter.

It is 4 inches too short. What is the cheapest way for me to get this
working?

It won't be square. It should be rectangular, so that the universal joints
always line up.
You have several options.

1. get a new shaft.
2. replace the solid rectangular section with a longer section (usually they
are held into the universal joint with a roll pin)
3. Find another bit off the hollow section, and weld an extension on.. I
have seen this done several times with this style of PTO shaft, and have
never seen one fail. I would recommend you get a competent welder to do it
though.

The minimum recommended insertion is 3-4 inches, so you'll be looking at
adding 8inches on.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

I'll second jb's suggestion. A PTO shaft needs a telescoping guard that
is free to stop while the power shaft is rotating. The guard also needs
to cover the U-joints. These requirements grew out of many gruesome
accidents involving all or parts of people wrapped around the shafts.
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Dave Hinz
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:15:34 GMT, Fred R <spam @columbus.rr.com> wrote:
Quote:
I'll second jb's suggestion. A PTO shaft needs a telescoping guard that
is free to stop while the power shaft is rotating. The guard also needs
to cover the U-joints. These requirements grew out of many gruesome
accidents involving all or parts of people wrapped around the shafts.

Yes. Speaking from direct personal experience, a person wrapped around
a PTO shaft is not a pleasant sight. Not a whole lot for an EMT
to do at that point, other than turn off the tractor & wait for the
coronor.
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~Roy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

On 1 Mar 2005 12:55:29 -0800, stryped@hotmail.com wrote:

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===<>My dad just bout a used tiller for the tractor it has a small short pto
===<>shaft. It is solid square metal about 1 inch or more diameter.
===
===<>It is 4 inches too short. What is the cheapest way for me to get this
===<>working?


Go to a agri supply store and look at their replacement parts for PTO
shafts. They have yokes, outer tube and inner shafts in all kinds of
shapes and sizes, usually sold by the foot.
Look at the yokes and tubes there, see how they go together.......the
inner portion (solid usually shaft) inserts into a like hole in a
yoke, and is then welded in place. Same for the outer tube that inner
shaft inserts into........same principal.
Get the pieces you need , and if your able to weld, cut apart your old
then just stick the new stuff together. If you can't weld your stuck
having to take it to a welding shop or perhaps someone you know that
can weld. They are not hard to redo, but its not a place to have
shoddy welds on. Replacing what you need on the shaft you already have
should be a lot cheaper than buying new.

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Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
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pyotr filipivich
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Dave Hinz
<DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote back on 1 Mar 2005 21:35:27 GMT in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
Quote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:15:34 GMT, Fred R <spam @columbus.rr.com> wrote:
I'll second jb's suggestion. A PTO shaft needs a telescoping guard that
is free to stop while the power shaft is rotating. The guard also needs
to cover the U-joints. These requirements grew out of many gruesome
accidents involving all or parts of people wrapped around the shafts.

Yes. Speaking from direct personal experience, a person wrapped around
a PTO shaft is not a pleasant sight. Not a whole lot for an EMT
to do at that point, other than turn off the tractor & wait for the
coronor.

No matter what the clearances are, it'll make you fit. Thank God I was
in the other end of the factory when Guy got wrapped up ...


tschus
pyotr


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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."
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Gunner
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: PTO SHaft Help Reply with quote

On 1 Mar 2005 21:35:27 GMT, Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:15:34 GMT, Fred R <spam @columbus.rr.com> wrote:
I'll second jb's suggestion. A PTO shaft needs a telescoping guard that
is free to stop while the power shaft is rotating. The guard also needs
to cover the U-joints. These requirements grew out of many gruesome
accidents involving all or parts of people wrapped around the shafts.

Yes. Speaking from direct personal experience, a person wrapped around
a PTO shaft is not a pleasant sight. Not a whole lot for an EMT
to do at that point, other than turn off the tractor & wait for the
coronor.

Thats actually one of the few ways Ive not seen people become a Darwin
event. Fortunately. All the other ways were more than enough
thankyouveddymuch.


Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"
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