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Richard
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MLEBLANCA
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 Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Plant ID - Germander? |
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common species of Teucrium there.
With lavender-blue flowers, I would say it is probably T. fruticans, Bush
Germander.
Emilie
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Richard
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Plant ID - Germander? |
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mleblanca@aol.com (MLEBLANCA) wrote in message news:<20041119003705.23417.00000883@mb-m03.aol.com>...
| Quote: | Please help me ID the plant in the pictures below. I've been told it's
a Germander (teucrium). Does anyone know the species and variety? The
pictures were taken in Sacramento, California in November. Thanks for
the help.
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http://richard2721.home.mindspring.com/Germander.jpg
http://richard2721.home.mindspring.com/Germander_Detail.jpg
| Quote: | Have you checked the Sunset Western Garden Book? There are descriptions of 4
common species of Teucrium there.
With lavender-blue flowers, I would say it is probably T. fruticans, Bush
Germander.
Emilie
NorCal (north of Sacramento)
zone 8/9
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Emilie, Yes, I saw the entry in SWGB, but the plant in the pictures is
prostrate and cascading. Teucrium fruticans is described as an upright
shrub. Thanks for the reply. |
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Jeana
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Plant ID - Germander? |
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Richard wrote:
I don't know which variety you have, but it looks very much like mine,
only different.  Mine is called Teucrum Chamaedrys. It would grow to
about a foot high and get floppy if I didn't keep it trimmed for a
hedge. The leaf looks the same though my flowers are more purple
Jeana
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David Hill
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Plant ID - Germander? |
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| I must say it looks more like cat mint Nepeta to me |
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Richard
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Plant ID - Germander? |
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Jeana <jamrodriguez@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<10pvr23rbkr0p5d@corp.supernews.com>...
| Quote: | Richard wrote:
Please help me ID the plant in the pictures below. I've been told it's
a Germander (teucrium). Does anyone know the species and variety? The
pictures were taken in Sacramento, California in November. Thanks for
the help.
http://richard2721.home.mindspring.com/Germander.jpg
http://richard2721.home.mindspring.com/Germander_Detail.jpg
I don't know which variety you have, but it looks very much like mine,
only different. Mine is called Teucrum Chamaedrys. It would grow to
about a foot high and get floppy if I didn't keep it trimmed for a
hedge. The leaf looks the same though my flowers are more purple
Jeana
Zone 5 Ohio
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Jeana, does your Teicrium have silver foliage like the one in the
picture? The description in Sunset Western Garden Book for T.
chamaedrys (aka T. x lucidrys) sounds like the plant but it does not
mention silver foliage. Here's the SWGB entry:
T. x Lucidrys (T. Chamaedrys) Zones 2-24. to 1 ft. tall and 2 ft.
wide, with many upright, woody-based stems densely chothed in toothed
dark green, 3/4 inch long leaves. Red-purple or white summer flowers
in loose spikes (white-flowered form is looser). Attracts bees. Us as
edging, foregreound, low clipped hedge, or small scale ground cover.
Shear back once or twice a year to keep neat and force side branching.
'Prostratum' is 4-6 in. high, spreading to 3 ft. or more. |
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Jeana
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Plant ID - Germander? |
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Richard wrote:
| Quote: | Jeana <jamrodriguez@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<10pvr23rbkr0p5d@corp.supernews.com>...
Richard wrote:
Please help me ID the plant in the pictures below. I've been told it's
a Germander (teucrium). Does anyone know the species and variety? The
pictures were taken in Sacramento, California in November. Thanks for
the help.
http://richard2721.home.mindspring.com/Germander.jpg
http://richard2721.home.mindspring.com/Germander_Detail.jpg
I don't know which variety you have, but it looks very much like mine,
only different. Mine is called Teucrum Chamaedrys. It would grow to
about a foot high and get floppy if I didn't keep it trimmed for a
hedge. The leaf looks the same though my flowers are more purple
Jeana
Zone 5 Ohio
Jeana, does your Teicrium have silver foliage like the one in the
picture? The description in Sunset Western Garden Book for T.
chamaedrys (aka T. x lucidrys) sounds like the plant but it does not
mention silver foliage. Here's the SWGB entry:
T. x Lucidrys (T. Chamaedrys) Zones 2-24. to 1 ft. tall and 2 ft.
wide, with many upright, woody-based stems densely chothed in toothed
dark green, 3/4 inch long leaves. Red-purple or white summer flowers
in loose spikes (white-flowered form is looser). Attracts bees. Us as
edging, foregreound, low clipped hedge, or small scale ground cover.
Shear back once or twice a year to keep neat and force side branching.
'Prostratum' is 4-6 in. high, spreading to 3 ft. or more.
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We have different species. In the book I have, it lists four varities.
T. lucidum, T. chamaedrys (wall germander), T. scordium, T. scorodonia.
The T. scorodonia says, known as sage-leaved germander, is a hedge lie
plant that draws it's name common name from it's grey-green sage like
leaves. The T. scordium is the creeping plant which likes marshy damp
areas. It's common name is water germander. The book is 1974 Rodale Herb
Book.
My leaves are always dark green, but not glossy as the description
reads. This book also says my leaves will turn reddish in the fall or in
dry weather but I haven't seen that happen yet. ;)
I like your variety too, and will look for it in the spring.
Jeanna |
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